Shanghai Commercial Bank knew about CDO
上商副總經理張偉才、行政總裁郭錫志、副總經理朱嘉華
Many of the banks tellers cannot sell the Minibonds, the banks used senior staffs and newly hired university degree staffs to sell these false bonds and all of them have been trained about Minibonds and the CDOs involved. And banks top management had chosen which Minibonds the banks could sell depending on the profit margin. There were real bonds sold in HK and mostly were Hutchison bonds in the year around 2000-2003 and most likely HSBC sold these bonds while SCB were selling false Hutchison bonds (Minibonds link with Hutchison) which required police investigations that at these time all the Hutchison bonds they wanted to sell were actually Minibonds. When banks ran out bonds' lies, they started to sell new high risk structure products and pretended that these were low risk bonds. That why all banks and their senior staffs were all guilty in this HK bank mis-selling frauds, and should be charged by police. The HK government inaction only proves that they want to save the banks with the cover up of banks mis-selling frauds. Only Legco has the power to locate which high government officials are involved with this cover up. And most bank tellers now still work in banks have nothing to do with the bank mis-selling frauds for these people cannot received payback of bonus of sells of Minibonds, and these responsible are all hiding in the main office in central and inside bank managers office in all branches.
The links of CDO crisis are as follows:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_mortgage_crisis#Boom_and_collapse_of_the_shadow_banking_system
SCB knew about CDO as they had sales managers in every banks to study these CDO inside Minibonds, and they knew about Lehman Brothers, Bear Stern as they cancelled the Constellation?(may be Victory Peak) from me as they knew Bear Stern was at high risk for defaults so as from Jenny Cheung, former sales manager from SCB in San Po Kong who quit in around 2007,2008. While SCB cover up these CDOs information ( http://minibondvictim.blogspot.com/2009/05/blog-post_10.html
http://us.ft.com/ftgateway/superpage.ft?news_id=fto070120071422352588&page=2
In 2008, SCB were selling LEBR 10Y, 15Y Callable Transatlantic Range Accural Notes from Lehman brothers instead of bonds. These notes were from offshore companies of Lehman brothers in Europe which was similar to Lehman ELN with no guarantee as from Minibonds. SCB knew that notes were traded between banks and corporation, while bonds were for customers of banks. Unlike what Joseph Yam was saying in Legco, Notes were not more safer in risk level than bonds, in 2008, US banks notes sales between banks should be very slow for these were high risk in most bankers minds, and that why SCB committed bank mis-selling frauds in selling those notes to their unsupected customers that did not watch US news.
http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/archive/2008/06/05/will-lehman-crash-and-burn.aspx
http://www.toomre.com/taxonomy/term/30/1
http://optionarmageddon.ml-implode.com/2007/12/24/telegraph-10-trillion-of-losses/
Only Asian corporate bonds and government were low risks during that periods because of 2007 credit crunch and these can be sold thru private banking in HK such as UBS.
CNN money, which was responsible for the high tech bust in around 2000, also had this articles that everybody saw in Internet and watched on CNN in TV and that the articles that made me worry about CDO at that time. May be the voodoo economy follower Joseph Yam (not expert, because he is only a statistician) never learnt from experience and believed in this article and let the Minibonds busted later as he admitted in Legco sessions:
http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/28/magazines/fortune/fortune500/eavis.creditfix.fortune/?section=money_topstories
Further informations on HSBC wanted to take over Lehman in 2008:
http://www.forbes.com/2008/09/11/lehman-treasury-fed-markets-cx_er_0911outlook.html
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hsbc-which-bank-is-it-buying-today-press-1-for-no-comment?pagenumber=1
The following rumor was started in 2007, and Lehman was not in good business climate either for banks to trade their notes:
http://dealbreaker.com/2007/05/has-lehman-lost-its-mojo.php
Many of the banks tellers cannot sell the Minibonds, the banks used senior staffs and newly hired university degree staffs to sell these false bonds and all of them have been trained about Minibonds and the CDOs involved. And banks top management had chosen which Minibonds the banks could sell depending on the profit margin. There were real bonds sold in HK and mostly were Hutchison bonds in the year around 2000-2003 and most likely HSBC sold these bonds while SCB were selling false Hutchison bonds (Minibonds link with Hutchison) which required police investigations that at these time all the Hutchison bonds they wanted to sell were actually Minibonds. When banks ran out bonds' lies, they started to sell new high risk structure products and pretended that these were low risk bonds. That why all banks and their senior staffs were all guilty in this HK bank mis-selling frauds, and should be charged by police. The HK government inaction only proves that they want to save the banks with the cover up of banks mis-selling frauds. Only Legco has the power to locate which high government officials are involved with this cover up. And most bank tellers now still work in banks have nothing to do with the bank mis-selling frauds for these people cannot received payback of bonus of sells of Minibonds, and these responsible are all hiding in the main office in central and inside bank managers office in all branches.
The links of CDO crisis are as follows:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subprime_mortgage_crisis#Boom_and_collapse_of_the_shadow_banking_system
SCB knew about CDO as they had sales managers in every banks to study these CDO inside Minibonds, and they knew about Lehman Brothers, Bear Stern as they cancelled the Constellation?(may be Victory Peak) from me as they knew Bear Stern was at high risk for defaults so as from Jenny Cheung, former sales manager from SCB in San Po Kong who quit in around 2007,2008. While SCB cover up these CDOs information ( http://minibondvictim.blogspot.com/2009/05/blog-post_10.html
http://us.ft.com/ftgateway/superpage.ft?news_id=fto070120071422352588&page=2
In 2008, SCB were selling LEBR 10Y, 15Y Callable Transatlantic Range Accural Notes from Lehman brothers instead of bonds. These notes were from offshore companies of Lehman brothers in Europe which was similar to Lehman ELN with no guarantee as from Minibonds. SCB knew that notes were traded between banks and corporation, while bonds were for customers of banks. Unlike what Joseph Yam was saying in Legco, Notes were not more safer in risk level than bonds, in 2008, US banks notes sales between banks should be very slow for these were high risk in most bankers minds, and that why SCB committed bank mis-selling frauds in selling those notes to their unsupected customers that did not watch US news.
http://blogs.moneycentral.msn.com/topstocks/archive/2008/06/05/will-lehman-crash-and-burn.aspx
http://www.toomre.com/taxonomy/term/30/1
http://optionarmageddon.ml-implode.com/2007/12/24/telegraph-10-trillion-of-losses/
Only Asian corporate bonds and government were low risks during that periods because of 2007 credit crunch and these can be sold thru private banking in HK such as UBS.
CNN money, which was responsible for the high tech bust in around 2000, also had this articles that everybody saw in Internet and watched on CNN in TV and that the articles that made me worry about CDO at that time. May be the voodoo economy follower Joseph Yam (not expert, because he is only a statistician) never learnt from experience and believed in this article and let the Minibonds busted later as he admitted in Legco sessions:
http://money.cnn.com/2007/11/28/magazines/fortune/fortune500/eavis.creditfix.fortune/?section=money_topstories
Further informations on HSBC wanted to take over Lehman in 2008:
http://www.forbes.com/2008/09/11/lehman-treasury-fed-markets-cx_er_0911outlook.html
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/hsbc-which-bank-is-it-buying-today-press-1-for-no-comment?pagenumber=1
The following rumor was started in 2007, and Lehman was not in good business climate either for banks to trade their notes:
http://dealbreaker.com/2007/05/has-lehman-lost-its-mojo.php
2 則留言:
In fact, SCB forced their staffs to sell Minibonds to customers.This person I don't know, but he is still working for SCB in some unimportant job for he refused to sell Minibonds to old and rich customers. SCB forced him to quit few years ago if he refused to sell Minibonds and related products, but he still refused and his salary is quite high for seniority, so the bank still keep him up to now. His relative (brother-in-law) is in Tai Po where he owned a book store.
A good way is you bring along a finger-like voice recorder and visit the bank. Activate voice recording before meeting the bank staff. Talk with the bank staff as usual and ask her question. The voice recorder will record all the conversation. The recordings can become evidence against the bank.
--- 2009年2月11日 星期三,hanhoco@yahoo.com 寫道﹕
寄件人: hanhoco@yahoo.com
主題: Re: my blog
收件人: chu_kwok_hung@yahoo.com.hk
日期: 2009 2 11 星期三 上午 9:32
Hi,
Jean and I talked before Chinese New Year to put more pressure on sales personal in banks and about CDO's. I put more information on bank staffs during the sales in the complaints to Legco while she will add more requests for
Legco to interview more bank staffs to expose more details on their understanding of CDO's and she still has'nt yet decided for she thinks
the bank staffs still don't know about these CDO.
SCB new sales staff just called yesterday about defaults on CDO of Nortel Networks and Smurfit-Stone container enterprises on Victoria Peak Int. Finance Ltd. and she lied about the 7 Asia entities are holding these (so called bonds) and asking me to sell Victoria Peak Octave Notes series 6. So the lying of banks about these CDOs continues.
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